Dr. Jon Kabat Zinn and Michael Murphy join Bokara for lunch and an in-depth discussion about transformation and mindfulness. Dr. Kabat-Zinn is the founder of the Stress Reduction Clinic at the University of Massachusetts Medical School. He is a meditation teacher and author of three books: "Wherever You Go, There you Are", "Full Catastrophe Living" and recently, "Coming to Our Senses." Michael Murphy is the founder of Esalen Institute and author of "Golf in the Kingdom", "The Future of the Body" and numerous other books. This program presents a variety of practices for developing awareness and mindfulness, practices which can not only heal our bodies and minds, but also, as we will hear, our troubled planet. Their discussion is full of inspiration, practical advice and lots of laughter. "The irony of meditation is that if you give up the desire to get someplace else, you will get someplace else, but it will be here, as opposed to somewhere else, and the YOU who will get there will be the full you, as opposed to the encrusted, contracted, encapsulated you that we think we are most of the time." -Jon Kabat Zinn "People mistake the idea of evolution for progress. These are two different things. Evolution is a fact-life has evolved on this planet. These are irreversible sequences, of development over time. But progress means that you set up some sort of criteria to say you are getting better and better in some ways." -Michael Murphy